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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | Could someone post what is needed to remotely run the Cannon 10D. I believe they can be run with nebulosity or DSLR shutter, is that correct?
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Elite Junky
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Location: Mocksville, NC, USA | The Canon 10D uses the "old" firmware, so Nebulosity "sort of" works through the USB connection in that you can frame and focus, but you cannot capture/download images. I think with the newer version of Neb., you can choose to leave the images on the CF card, so maybe Neb. will work enough so you can get the images off of the card.
I used DSLRShutter when I had the 10D, and DSLRFocus, though I would not suggest DSLRFocus since the original developer doesn't seem to be supporting it anymore.
If you already have Neb., I'd try that. You may need the Shoestring shutter adapter if Neb. doesn't work through the USB cable.
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Elite Junky
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | I'll download DSLR shutter if I have to. Going to try neb first and see. With DSLR shutter can you run the camera remotely and adjust the length of the exposure? I just want to be able to set it up so that I can set it to take say 10 300 seecond frames and not have to sit there with it. My olympus program lets you do time lapse and it works good the only problem is you have a choice between 60 seconds and less or a max of 8 minutes. If you want to take anything between the 60 seconds and 8 minutes you have to sit there with a stopwatch and run it manually.
Thanks for the help Barry
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Location: Mocksville, NC, USA | Rich, I wish I still had the 10D to be able to answer your questions. I know that at some point I had to use the Shoestring adapter to be able to do >30sec exposures, but Neb. may be able to communicate via the USB to do >30sec exposures. I just can't remember. |
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Location: Concord NC | Rich,
I use a 300d and made my own adapter. The schematics are listed in one of Covington's books. http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/dslr/CanonRelease.html It cost about $20 to make and connects to a serial DB9 port. I use DSLR shutter and don't have any issues. I have done up to 15 minute exposures and 100 images without issue. With the camera that is. If only it could eliminate that sky glow.
The variables that are user defined in DSLRshutter are a minimum of 1 second and are:
Number of exposures
Duration of exposures
Enable mirror lockup
Delay for sequence to start
Delay before each frame
Delay after each frame
It also shows the elapsed time to completion of the frames.
Joe
Edited by Hot2Trot 2/8/2010 10:50 PM
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Elite Junky
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | Thanks for the info guys. I was thinking you still were using your 10D Barry, I must have missed an episode. I guess I'll have to wait and see how it works when it gets here in a day or two. A question about the serial cable way that you talk about Joe. How is there a distance limit to serial cables like there is to USB cables? Running the cables from the house out to the scope is roughly 30 feet. I was able to do it with the USB which has the limit on it by using active cables and powered hub but I don't know of anything for serial like that.
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Regular Junky
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Location: Concord NC | I only needed to make mine 10 feet long since I use a KVM extender. However, a serial cable should work fine up to about 50 feet. Longer if good cable is used.
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Elite Junky
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | Well the camera came. What a difference from the olympus in feel. The camera is I would guess is about 3 times heavier then the olympus. I need to sit down with the manual and figure the thing out. The olympus is a different animal it seems or maybe it is because Im so used to it. With the olympus all the setting were easy to get to and understand, not with this canon. I did try it with nebulosity and dslr shutter. Nebulosity says something like running in safe mode and when I go to like a 1 minute exposure it pops up a message saying the max is 30 seconds. I just downloaded that APT that was mentioned in another topic here in the forum and will mess around with that. I wish nebulosity worked, looks like I will need that adapter which isn't a total shock.
Over all the camera looks nice. Can't wait to get it set up and running right and under the stars. It should be much better then the olympus, just need to figure it out first ! 
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | Was able to sit down with the manual and figure out some of the camera like the file type and shutter speed. Now just need to find/figure out the mirror lock up and noise reduction. I set the camera to default to start fresh after I got it and I would think that the noise reduction would be off. If that is the case, what a difference between that and the olympus. I took a 30 second dark frame with both camera's and the olympus had amp glow and red dots all over the frame. The canon was totally clean. I can't wait to image with this if thats how much less noise it is. What a difference.
Could someone post just what I need to get this going for long exposures? I would like to use nebulosity but if I can't thats fine. If you feel like posting links to parts that I need that would be most cool! I want to make sure that I get the right parts the first time.
Its so tempting to take it out the next time its clear and try the 30 second exposures.
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Location: Wyoming Sagebrush | Rich,
Go to menu/#2 wrench/CFn, that's where tou find things like noise reduction etc.
I don't think you'd want to use that anyway if you're taking darks.
I'm not exactly sure about the 10D, but my XTi which is the 400D; I control with nebulosity and use the ShoeString DSUSB to enable long exposures. |
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Elite Junky
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | Hmm I haven't seen any wrenches in this camera. They are there on the olympus so I might be just missing them on the Canon. At this point I was to try shooting without any noise reduction even for lights. The dark that I took compaired to the olympus dark looks promising. I would rather take the darks after and do subtract that way depending on how good that works. Ill look more for wrenches.
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Elite Junky
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | Ok I found the way to enable the lock up but can't find how to set the delay. Still haven't found the noise reduction stuff and its not in the manual. I wonder if it has it.
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Location: Wyoming Sagebrush | Canon calls it "long exp.noise reduction"
On mine it's #02 in "custom function" |
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Elite Junky
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Location: Shelburne Falls Mass. | I talked to canon today and according to them they don't have noise reduction on any of there camera's which if you have it on yours, isn't totally true. I have been up and down the manual who knows how many times and I can't find it and according to the guy I talked to, the 10D doesn't have it. I really didn't want to use it anyway unless I totally had to. I would rather do bad pixel or dark frames. Once I get the wires to be able to run it remotely I will see if I can figure out the mirror lock up. He was wrong about the mirror lock up as well so I think I had a new guy. I might call back in a day or so and see if I get someone else who knows more. I really need the cables to test and figure it out properly. Couple weeks I should have the money together to get those and then I can do it. I can't wait.
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